Re: !> Former Governor Jesse Ventura Goes Public: 9-11 Was An Inside Job <!

"Henry" <9-11@insidejob.gov> wrote in message 
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> Hertz Donut wrote:
>> "Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message
>
>>> 6 years of made up shit, fraudulent quotes, and
>>> parotted opinions from non-experts
>
>> Al...it's all they have!
>
>  What's really notable, is that some of these non-experts
> actually got their made up shit spewed through millions
> of TVs all over the globe - like Thomas Eagar's claim that
> the central cores consisted of a series of horizontal slabs
> somehow suspended in space. A blatant, deliberate, and gross
> misrepresentation of the evidence, but that's close enough
> for government propaganda guzzling/puking cartoon conspiracy
> sheep...  <chuckle>
>
> http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/experts/articles/eagar_nova/nova_eagar1_files/coll_wtcdesign.jpg
>
>  Myself and others who work to expose the truth about 9-11 portray
> the massive central core structures accurately. This is what they
> looked like in reality. The Bush regime's puppets also denied
> the very existence of the cores. That's another gross misrepresentation
> of the evidence.
>
>  http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/core.html
>
>  http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc1cons1.html
>
>  Your ruling masters resort to lies and imaginary structures
> portrayed in drawings, because actual photo evidence and facts
> prove their cartoon kook theories to be impossible.
>
> http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/experts/articles/eagar_nova/nova_eagar1.html
>
>  I see there are no facts, research, or references
> in your k00k rant, either. Facts, expert research, and
> evidence scare the hell out conspiracy k00ks. That's why
> neither you, no any other Bush parroting k00k can explain
> how your magic fires caused the huge explosions discussed
> below, or any of the other compelling evidence proving
> demolition. So, you make shit up, cite non-experts, and spew
> k00k drivel instead.
>
>  Let us know if you dispute or don't understand any of
> what is written in Kevin Ryan's paper below.
>
>
>  Videos of "squibs":
>
>   http://tinyurl.com/3hohw3
>
>
>  Squibs everywhere, but especially at the 10 and
> 20 second marks:
>
>   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjfoXbyffso&feature=related
>
>
>
>  http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2007/Ryan_HVBD.pdf
>
>  "In videos we can see these bursts being ejected from the sides of the
> towers nearly thirty floors below the collapse front.[3] The bursts
> continue throughout the duration of each tower?s destruction, and all of
> them are similar in shape and velocity. Each of these was a sharp
> emission that appeared to come from a point-like source, ejecting
> approximately 50 to 100 feet from the side of the building in a fraction
> of a second. From the extracted frames of the KTLA video (ref. 2), we
> can estimate that one of the first bursts was fully ejected in
> approximately 0.45 seconds. This gives an average burst velocity of
> approximately 170 feet per second (fps). Others have estimated the
> velocity of these ejections at over 1100 fps.[4]
> These bursts were ignored by government investigators for a period of
> several years, as was all other evidence for the demolition hypothesis.
> But after being forced to field many ?frequently asked questions?,
> NIST?s Shyam Sunder finally provided a semiofficial explanation. In a
> March 2005 article by Popular Mechanics, Sunder called these bursts
> ?puffs of dust?, and explained "When you have a significant portion of
> a floor collapsing, it's going to shoot air and concrete dust out the
> window. Those clouds of dust may create the impression of a controlled
> demolition, but it is the floor pancaking that leads to that 
> perception."[5]
>   Unfortunately for Sunder, NIST was forced to abandon that answer, in
> the summer of 2006, saying ?NIST?s findings do not support the ?pancake
> theory? of collapse.? In an attempt to maintain their faltering
> fire-induced collapse hypothesis, NIST tried to retain the essence of
> the explanation, despite having forsaken pancaking floors. They did so
> by saying ?the falling mass of the building compressed the air ahead of
> it?much like the action of a piston?forcing smoke and debris out the
> windows as the stories below failed sequentially.?[6]
> 3
> Although the piston analogy might have made some minimal sense for the
> discarded pancake theory, it does not work at all for NIST?s current
> pile-driver theory. A piston is a sliding shaft that fits within an
> enclosed cylinder, whose action within the cylinder causes the volume
> and pressure to change. But the WTC buildings did not have sections
> acting like pistons at any time before, or during, their disintegration.
> Without pancaking floors, there is no internal shaft to slide down
> within the ?enclosed cylinder? of these tall buildings.
> Because the government scientists never did any physical testing to
> support this latest compression argument, we must try to imagine for
> ourselves how the disintegrating building could have created the
> ejections of debris.
>   To be the result of overpressures created from the falling mass, these
> bursts had to emanate from highly pressurized containers that were
> tightly sealed on all sides except the point of ejection. With his 2005
> pancaking floors hypothesis, NIST?s Shyam Sunder suggested that these
> pressurized containers were entire floor areas, compressed by the
> falling mass. The reason these containers cannot be smaller than a full
> floor area is because the office floors were wide-open spaces, with no
> floor to ceiling partitions as normally found in other office buildings.
> The effective partition-less area in each floor was approximately 3000
> square meters.
>
>   It?s difficult to imagine how 283 steel columns in each of the Twin
> Towers could have been compressed so rapidly and uniformly, while
> collapsing at nearly free-fall speed through a vertical distance of 350
> meters. But even if this feature of the fire-induced hypothesis was a
> given, to initiate the gas pressure below, we would need to imagine the
> falling mass as a flat plate, or a continuous sheet, exerting uniform
> pressure at all points. If discontinuous, the falling mass would allow
> pressure to be released upward. But we can infer that the falling mass
> was probably not a uniform flat plate or a continuous sheet because
> workers who cleaned up the site described how the debris at ground zero
> was all pulverized, except for the steel assemblies. Photographic
> evidence (as in Fig. 1 above) also indicates that the falling debris,
> which appeared to explode outward to some extent, was cloud-like. Such
> cloud-like debris could not form the continuous falling surface that
> would be needed to create the downward pressure and compress the air
> below.
>   The lack of a continuous compressive force in itself repudiates the
> compressive piston hypothesis. But it is not enough to simply discredit
> this latest weak answer from NIST. By showing how completely ineffective
> NIST?s new argument is, we can better understand how desperate those
> supporting the government?s ever-changing fire-based hypotheses have
> become. Not only was there no way to compress the gas below, the floors
> were not air tight, enclosed containers either, which means that, even
> if the falling mass could exert a uniform downward pressure, it would
> not be contained. There were eight large air supply and return
> ventilation shafts located in the core areas of each floor.[7] There
> were also three stairwells running throughout the building, and over
> thirty elevator shafts at any given level. Any compressed air would have
> had to equilibrate with open stairwells and elevator shafts, and with
> any openings from these shafts to other parts of the building (i.e.
> vent ducts). Additionally, we know that the fire in the north tower in
> 1975 was spread by means of openings in the floor slabs, of more than
> one square foot area, used to transfer telephone cables.[8] All of these
> facts indicate that any pressurized air would be forced to equilibrate
> over large sections of the building, if not the entire lower section,
> and could not be contained on one floor alone.
>
>
>
>
> -- 
>
>  http://911research.wtc7.net
>  http://www.911truth.org
>  http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
>
>
>  Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
> to raging infernos for hours on end.
>
>  http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/fires.html
>  http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
>
>  On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
> had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
> at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
> demolition.
>
>  http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
>  http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
>
>  Ever wonder who benefits from the 700 MILLION
>  U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
>  http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
>  http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
>
>   "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
>  there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
>  take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
>  who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
>  warfare or morality."
>  -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
>   http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
>
>  http://www.commondreams.org/
>  http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
>
>  "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
>  that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
>
>   "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
>    or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
>    not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
>    to the American public."
>    -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
>
>   Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
>   friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
>

Aren't you the same idiot that claimed that thermite was used based upon the 
color of the smoke coming from the towers?

In addition, the *real* threat to this country are the brain-damaged 
Konspiracy Kooks like you.  You believe every half-baked idea proposed by 
every drug-addicted wingnut that comes along.

Someday, when you have more than two functioning brain cells, you'll 
understand how pathetically stupid you make yourself look.


Honu