Re: Lords Cricket Ground disused tunnel

On 18 Apr, 12:54, Jamie Thompson <jamiero...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 17 Apr, 23:52, Tom Anderson <t...@urchin.earth.li> wrote:
>
> > You'll see that between Dalston and Highbury & Islington, the NLL-ELLX
> > route is four track, but paired by destination, with the ELL tracks to the
> > south of the NLL. Tracks continue to the west of H&I only from the NLL.
> > That means that, even with crossovers in the right places, trains could
> > only run from the ELL to the west by making a conflicting movement over
> > the eastbound NLL track, which, given the frequencies involved, is
> > basically a no-no. And i'm not even sure there are crossovers in the right
> > place.
>
> > The upshot of this is that the ELL will run only to H&I, which will leave
> > the ELL and NLL as completely segregated services, maximising their
> > reliability and potential frequency. Short of throwing in a flyover at
> > Dalston, there's not really any way to deliver a practical railway other
> > than this.
>
> The viaduct is wide enough for four tracks all the way to the junction
> west of Camden Road Station, where it inexplicably narrows to two
> before diverging. If the viaduct was widened here for 500ft or so to
> enable the two services to remain separate, you could continue have
> totally separate ELL and NLL services; The ELL to Willesden Junction/
> Queens Park via Queens Park, and the NLL to Willesden Junction via
> Hampstead.


Indeed - Paul Scott actually suggested this a few days ago in a uk.r
thread, but for a different reason - it was as a way of getting
Eurostar/ international trains off the WCML via Primrose Hill to the
new North London Incline, which diverges from the NLL east of Camden
Road station down to the CTRL portal, without conflicting with the
busy NLL - his post can be seen here:
<http://preview.tinyurl.com/6nnnj2>

Of course the idea of regional Eurostar services seems to remain pie
in the sky. However Jamie's suggestion seems like a pretty good one -
however it would mean that at H&I, Cally Rd & Barnesbury and Camden
Road there would be two separate platforms for east-west services,
though this would only really matter for any journeys made between
them (e.g. H&I to Camden).